MOTIV RE|FLEX - ADVANCED I/O INTEGRATION

Torgus

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I ordered some GC2+ turbos new outlets an new relocated inlets....along with the VRSF street exhaust. I might need to get ahold of Jake as well and upgrade my clutch assembly...

Did you consider the DAWs? They look the same ;)
 
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Steve135i

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Hi I have a reflex 300's serial number and a flex box. Everything is hooked up. I'm pretty computer stupid and hooking everything up was pretty easy but I had a motiv flex tune I loaded through mhd and i had not loaded firmware into the reflex itself. Anyway I got that sorted and had jake@motiv set up my reflex for me remotely. Now it all works but my car doesn't. That's another story.
One question is where can I learn to use tunerpro rt the best way. I watched while Jake set it up and know only how to change the boost. I'd like to learn about the fuel tables and all the other features I can use reflex for.
Another question. What is the point of me buying a flex tune from motiv and loading it into the obd port if I can set everything up directly into the reflex box? Do I continue to log and do tune revisions ? Or just learn how to change things in tunerpro?
Thanks for any help I've read everything I can find on reflex and tunerpro rt and there is not much. That I've found anyway.
 

Jeffman

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Hi I have a reflex 300's serial number and a flex box. Everything is hooked up. I'm pretty computer stupid and hooking everything up was pretty easy but I had a motiv flex tune I loaded through mhd and i had not loaded firmware into the reflex itself. Anyway I got that sorted and had jake@motiv set up my reflex for me remotely. Now it all works but my car doesn't. That's another story.
One question is where can I learn to use tunerpro rt the best way. I watched while Jake set it up and know only how to change the boost. I'd like to learn about the fuel tables and all the other features I can use reflex for.
Another question. What is the point of me buying a flex tune from motiv and loading it into the obd port if I can set everything up directly into the reflex box? Do I continue to log and do tune revisions ? Or just learn how to change things in tunerpro?
Thanks for any help I've read everything I can find on reflex and tunerpro rt and there is not much. That I've found anyway.
I taught myself how to use TunerPro via postings on another forum - bummerboost - along with the famous V8Bait Excel spreadsheet on tuning basics, which should be stored somewhere on this forum. I suspect YouTube will now have many TunerPro how-tos. Good luck!
 

jakeg

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Visconti did nothing aside from be a test mule. Ecutek engineers wrote that functionality.

We @ MHD will be expanding our ReFlex integration to feature two way comms as well :)
Any update on this 👀
 

Dumaurier7

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Motive has now updated the wireing diagrams to show the additional inputs and outputs.


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..........There is also a new aquisition .adx file which I assume will show all the new features but I have not seen new firmware updates yet though.
 
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pysical

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For those of you running the Reflex on N54 with the first gen, I have a question..

Right now my car is hooked up to the Motiv Flex Fuel module like it would normally be hooked up. This is the harness that runs from the sensor to the DME box and has 3 wires to DME, a power, and a ground and then plugs into the Module.

I then have the Reflex hooked up by the 3 wires that go to the DME, a power, and a ground.

Am I supposed to plug in the "breakout" harness on the sensor and then run the other grey harness from the breakout to the input on the reflex harness?
 

Reformatt

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For those of you running the Reflex on N54 with the first gen, I have a question..

Right now my car is hooked up to the Motiv Flex Fuel module like it would normally be hooked up. This is the harness that runs from the sensor to the DME box and has 3 wires to DME, a power, and a ground and then plugs into the Module.

I then have the Reflex hooked up by the 3 wires that go to the DME, a power, and a ground.

Am I supposed to plug in the "breakout" harness on the sensor and then run the other grey harness from the breakout to the input on the reflex harness?
If I can remember correctly the breakout harness has a total of 3 connectors one goes to the actual flex fuel sensor you will the have 2 female connectors the one with the single wire you will connect your original motive flexfuel harness that goes to the Motiv flex fuel box…the other harness will go to the reflex aux input.
 

Steve135i

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Yes the breakout harness has 2 plugs on it. The single side goes to eth sensor. The double side 1 goes to reflex plug and one goes to flex box
 

pysical

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Thats for the replies. When I bought it all, Chris setup the order. I had a look at the breakout harness on the website and it mentions it is for people who want to keep the bluetooth ethanol analyzer in place, so I didn't think I needed it. Looks like I need to use it then..

Thanks
 

Dumaurier7

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Hello all, anyone with an F22 and motive Low fuel pressure sensor noticing very quick and occasional dips in (low) fuel pressure at idle? also is there a way to adjust this setting?
 

jzx_andy

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It doesn't seem like anyone has mentioned this, but Motiv have added some info about a new Reflex Lite on their website: https://www.motivmotorsport.com/products/reflex-lite

Perhaps this, coupled with factory DME MAC control and secondary fuel pump triggering, may make this a very attractive option for some of us down the line (particularly those whom already have the Motiv flexfuel ECA kit wired in).

MOTIV is excited to present the newest member of the ReFlex family - the ReFlex LITE. Using the same precise form of sequential fuel injection, the ReFlex LITE brings a more affordable fuel controller without the additional features of the ReFlex or ReFlex PLUS.

  • Sequential fuel injection
  • Injector harness included (Inline4, Inline6, V6, and V8 available)
  • Preloaded with firmware to run right out of the box. Just load one of the free base maps for your injector size and you are ready to go. All maps are unlocked and editable for custom tuning adjustments.
  • High resolution calibration tables
    • 24x24 cell RPM vs MAP
    • 0-48psi MAP pressure range
    • 250RPM increments up to 8500RPM
  • High resolution datalogging
  • Fault detection status available to monitor in the MOTIV ReFlex Tuning Suite and TunerPRO RT.
  • Compact in size
  • Universal fitment
  • Simple installation
 

houtan

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Anyone here running this on an e series n55 to control a Mac solenoid and/ or port injection? Even feedback from n54 users would be great.

How is boost control? Just looking for some real world feedback before I switch from an ebc and aic.
 

Reformatt

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Anyone here running this on an e series n55 to control a Mac solenoid and/ or port injection? Even feedback from n54 users would be great.

How is boost control? Just looking for some real world feedback before I switch from an ebc and aic.
I have been running the reflex+ In my N54 for a pretty good while…well ever since the plus version came out. I haven’t updated the software an noticed a updates have been loaded their site.

I do notice some fuel ossifications mostly in 6th gear but I can’t say for sure if it’s software based ….or a over stressed 335is style clutch. Or software update related.

I do have new VTT FRB+ turbos and the motive clutch sitting in my study…just have to get un lazy and do the install…not as simple when your pushing 51 on your back with jackstands lol. But really until I remove all the possible mechanical limitations I am not going to say it’s the tune or software version…once I get everything installed I will harass Jake for a evaluation an a tune.

But if I’m acting a fool on the road I’m typically never in 6th gear so the oscillations I notice aren’t noticeable.

But I can say for certain the current VTT billet CHRA’s spinning up to 25-28psi don’t like me very much 🤤
 
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pysical

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Has anyone ran into issues with the PI not spraying? I have it hooked up, flashed the map but based on my logs my PI is not coming on.
 

pysical

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Hmm I would have to double check. Right now the car is down but I should still be able to connect MHD.
 

doublespaces

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Got my Reflex a week or so ago. Wish my car was ready to use it. This with the BPM4 and hopefully fueling management will be golden.

I'm guessing Reflex could potentially supplement an existing EKP for secondary LPFP control, though I don't see any mention of amps for those outputs anywhere. But for those with a BPM4 already, it doesn't appear that it has been obsoleted in any way since the EKP already has a hard time running one pump.

Is anyone actually using the ReFlex for secondary LPFP control?

Update from Jake @ Motiv:
- N54 E Sensor Support Coming (4 weeks guesstimate)
- N54 MHD CAN Bus integration coming (waiting on MHD devlopment as they are doing the R&D)
@Jake@MHD Can you confirm this is something on your backlog or is it just an idea?


There's always something new coming. The reflex as is already exceeds almost anything else available in the price range. Upgrade when you have need, don't just chase the next big thing.

I got my lastest 335 in 2016 with 52k miles. It currently has 63k. Seems like all I do with it is datalogging, haven't touched the car in over a year, though it does drive.
 

Dumaurier7

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I'm guessing Reflex could potentially supplement an existing EKP for secondary LPFP control, though I don't see any mention of amps for those outputs anywhere. But for those with a BPM4 already, it doesn't appear that it has been obsoleted in any way since the EKP already has a hard time running one pump.

Is anyone actually using the ReFlex for secondary LPFP control?
It does not directly power the pump, It can replace the Hobbs Switch and directly trigger a relay to turn on the second pump, power handling is around 1 amp(it is mentioned). I have a BPM4 running two 450s' together with a CM5-LTS - Water Methanol Injection Controller which can also power two pumpds directly! If I had known that the methanol controller could actually power a second pump I would not have purchased the BPM4 so anyone looking for a good water meth controller AND secondary pump controller this is a good option.