N54 Turbo query

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It was open. My only thing of concern is not hearing back when I emailed him. I'll shoot another email today.
I wouldn't be concerned it happened to me too. I'd just shoot him another email, sometimes emails get drown out by other emails.
 

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Oh yeah please hold. Spool isn't the end all when it comes to having a faster car its probably one of the more irrelevant factors honestly. Many ways to get a larger turbo car into boost. In stock n54s if you care about your motor you actually wanna limit spool up time and delay it till after 3500 to save the oem rods. I'll look to see if I have some 6266 dyno graphs , from everything I've seen a 6266 or smaller will spool just as fast as your average 19t high flow turbos
 
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While everyone else is doing big twin turbo builds (Vipers, lambos, R8s, C8 vettes, Coyotes, LS, etc), N54 hustln backwards and ditching twins ( which is factory configuration) for singles.
 

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Oh yeah please hold. Spool isn't the end all when it comes to having a faster car its probably one of the more irrelevant factors honestly. Many ways to get a larger turbo car into boost. In stock n54s if you care about your motor you actually wanna limit spool up time and delay it till after 3500 to save the oem rods. I'll look to see if I have some 6266 dyno graphs , from everything I've seen a 6266 or smaller will spool just as fast as your average 19t high flow turbos
I didn't mean that seriously 😂. We all know singles have the stronger top end. Your average 19t's are also normally ebay specials. Also wasn't it proven that a 6466 doesn't spool much slower then a 6266
 

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While everyone else is doing big twin turbo builds (Vipers, lambos, R8s, C8 vettes, Coyotes, LS, etc), N54 hustln backwards and ditching twins ( which is factory configuration) for singles.
Those engines also are all a lot higher displacement. Also are in V configurations which makes it much more feasible to run big twins. Inline's are much simpler with one turbo. But a N54 with a set of rods and pistons with head studs, and a crank hub with big twins would be a incredible configuration as they would out spool a single car and would make tons of mid range power plus all the torque.
 

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I didn't mean that seriously 😂. We all know singles have the stronger top end. Your average 19t's are also normally ebay specials. Also wasn't it proven that a 6466 doesn't spool much slower then a 6266
Yeah its a couple hundred rpm if that, tuning and fuel used makes a huge factor
 

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Those engines also are all a lot higher displacement. Also are in V configurations which makes it much more feasible to run big twins. Inline's are much simpler with one turbo. But a N54 with a set of rods and pistons with head studs, and a crank hub with big twins would be a incredible configuration as they would out spool a single car and would make tons of mid range power plus all the torque.
Yeah the question when it comes to doing that is when do the turbos start running out of there efficiency range . To my knowledge nobody has made compressor maps for any n54 turbos so the true efficiency is unknown
 

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Those engines also are all a lot higher displacement. Also are in V configurations which makes it much more feasible to run big twins. Inline's are much simpler with one turbo. But a N54 with a set of rods and pistons with head studs, and a crank hub with big twins would be a incredible configuration as they would out spool a single car and would make tons of mid range power plus all the torque.
Yes. But yet BMW from FACTORY opted for twins.
 

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Yes. But yet BMW from FACTORY opted for twins.
Well they were trying to make a na feeling but have the vehicle turbocharged and they did a good job. 2jz also came with twins as did the rb and 20b , but what does everyone do? Throw them things in the garbage where they belong
 
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Well they were trying to make a na feeling but have the vehicle turbocharged and they did a good job. 2jz also came with twins as did the rb and 20b , but what does everyone do? Throw them things in the garbage where they belong
The S58 did 800whp on stockers 🤷‍♂️. Twins aren't all bad, a twins car on track in probably a lot better then a single car.
 
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The S85 did 800whp on stockers 🤷‍♂️. Twins aren't all bad, a twins car on track in probably a lot better then a single car.
Yeah better in terms of spool possibly. The amount of heat the twins are gonna produce on track is gonna be difficult to deal with
 

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S85 or s63 ? S85 must have some nice stock twins 😂
 

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Lets see some dyno graphs of a single spooling as fast as twins.

Let me know when twins do 800wtq at 4k ;)

This is a stock n54 with a smaller EFR turbo roughly equivalent to a PTE 6266. I say roughly as we know a 6266 maxes out at 800whp on an n54 + dynojet.

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The dyno numbers and ETs the S58 is putting out just makes me want to sell my car. Can we please never mention that engine again?
 
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Let me know when twins do 800wtq at 4k ;)

This is a stock n54 with a smaller EFR turbo roughly equivalent to a PTE 6266. I say roughly as we know a 6266 maxes out at 800whp on an n54 + dynojet.

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The dyno numbers and ETs the S58 is putting out just makes me want to sell my car. Can we please never mention that engine again?
Don't you think the s58 would look good next to your n54 though?
 

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Did you edit lol ? Unless my eyes deceived me lol. But yeah s58 is impressive but it's also water to air so the intake Temps are more controllable for tracking purposes.
Maybe.......
Let me know when your twins do 800whp at 4k This is a stock n54 with a smaller EFR turbo roughly equivalent to a PTE 6266. I say roughly as we know a 6266 maxes out at 800whp on an n54 + dynojet.

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The dyno numbers and ETs the S58 is putting out just makes me want to sell my car. Can we please never mention that engine again?
So are you saying i should go with a single setup over twins😅.

And the S58 is very impressive, really makes want to sell both my cars. What really confuses me is that it uses S63tu rods, which aren't known to be the strongest. But it's making as much power as a new S63tu will with 2 less cylinders
 

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Maybe.......

So are you saying i should go with a single setup over twins😅.

And the S58 is very impressive, really makes want to sell both my cars. What really confuses me is that it uses S63tu rods, which aren't known to be the strongest. But it's making as much power as a new S63tu will with 2 less cylinders
That 3d printed head has to be putting in some work