DIY N54 Injector bore repair kit

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But actually it is illegal. Even to make and use for your own personal use and never sell. That’s the whole point of a patent.

That is entirely the point of my response above.

Just making it. Using it, or (not and) selling it or offering to sell, or even make and give away for free to a friend. Is illegal. It’s protected under

35 U.S. Code § 271​

So why you may feel you have the right to take my idea that I worked hard to design and make and use it for your self or share for free with friends… you don’t.

I support diy. We gladly offer free advice and help everyday for no charge at all to anyone who messages us. Seriously message us on Facebook if you have a bmw issue you can’t figure out. We will guide you through a diy fix. Advice is always free with us.

But making a diy copy of a patented product is illegal. Doesn’t matter if you sell it or not.

We don’t pay our attorney for nothing. We made sure when we made the investment to test this that the patent was made correctly so that no one can use this and steal our idea and us not recoup our investment.

If you need a kit. I’m happy to help you. I’ll gladly sell you one. If you own a shop and have a business license and want to stock them we offer discounts on bill orders and to resellers.


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I truly don't get why you think were all running to the drawing boards trying to copy you. Firstly if I copied it for personal use, how would you even know I did. This whole passive aggressive approach isn't a good look for your business. I get that your trying to recuperate funds but that doesn't mean you throw empty threats at users. Additionally, as you said in the post you've now deleted "The N54 crowd is filled with haters and people like above" the N54 community is also filled with Vendors that genuinely make really cool and useful products but have real shitty attitudes AKA CLOWNS.
 
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I truly don't get why you think were all running to the drawing boards trying to copy you. Firstly if I copied it for personal use, how would you even know I did. This whole passive aggressive approach isn't a good look for your business. I get that your trying to recuperate funds but that doesn't mean you throw empty threats at users. Additionally, as you said in the post you've now deleted "The N54 crowd is filled with haters and people like above" the N54 community is also filled with Vendors that genuinely make really cool and useful products but have real shitty attitudes.
I didn’t delete that. It’s still there. 🤔

I’ve never come on here and said anything negative to anyone. I usually stay off. But when someone even mentioned the idea of trying to copy or replicate an idea I had, made, and spent thousands of dollars on and then thousands more to patent. Yeah I’m going to come on here and defend my self and my product. I have nothing personal against anyone. I try everyday to message back everyone who hits us up. I’ve spent countless hours helping people who I know don’t need any of my products and won’t buy anything just trying to help them go through logs and sort out their issues sometimes late at night. I do that because I enjoy helping people. Name any other manufacturer on this platform that does that.

That’s not a shitty attitude. All I’m saying is don’t copy my product that I worked hard to make to fix a issue that dates back 9 years. You all had 9 years to come up with it. You didn’t. I did and spent the money to do it.

You are welcome. And again. Seriously this and any other product I make or sell aside. I’m always happy to talk N54 and help anyone who has a issue they can’t figure out. Advice is always free. Just shoot me a Facebook message.

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I truly don't get why you think were all running to the drawing boards trying to copy you. Firstly if I copied it for personal use, how would you even know I did. This whole passive aggressive approach isn't a good look for your business. I get that your trying to recuperate funds but that doesn't mean you throw empty threats at users. Additionally, as you said in the post you've now deleted "The N54 crowd is filled with haters and people like above" the N54 community is also filled with Vendors that genuinely make really cool and useful products but have real shitty attitudes AKA CLOWNS.
Ah.....I must have missed that. So I am a Hater ? Because I 🤣 ?
Wow, well as said above, if we do this to our cars it is NOT illegal. Nor would you know we did it.
Your post sounds ridiculous .
Tens of thousands of dollars ????? To develop inserts ? Not even develop, more like the idea OF.....inserts have been around for a VERY long time.
How many motors / heads did you fuck up ???
 
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I didn’t delete that. It’s still there. 🤔

I’ve never come on here and said anything negative to anyone. I usually stay off. But when someone even mentioned the idea of trying to copy or replicate an idea I had, made, and spent thousands of dollars on and then thousands more to patent. Yeah I’m going to come on here and defend my self and my product. I have nothing personal against anyone. I try everyday to message back everyone who hits us up. I’ve spent countless hours helping people who I know don’t need any of my products and won’t buy anything just trying to help them go through logs and sort out their issues sometimes late at night. I do that because I enjoy helping people. Name any other manufacturer on this platform that does that.

That’s not a shitty attitude. All I’m saying is don’t copy my product that I worked hard to make to fix a issue that dates back 9 years. You all had 9 years to come up with it. You didn’t. I did and spent the money to do it.

You are welcome. And again. Seriously this and any other product I make or sell aside. I’m always happy to talk N54 and help anyone who has a issue they can’t figure out. Advice is always free. Just shoot me a Facebook message.

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Ummmm we all had 9 years ?
News flash, I have zero problems with my head / injectors so.....how do you figure we all had 9 years to fix something that was never a problem for ME. ???
Yes you have a shitty attitude and way with wording things.
We / us all can have just as shitty attitude 🖕🏾
 
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Ummmm we all had 9 years ?
News flash, I have zero problems with my head / injectors so.....how do you figure we all had 9 years to fix something that was never a problem for ME. ???
Yes you have a shitty attitude and way with wording things.
We / us all can have just as shitty attitude 🖕🏾
12 heads, 10 design revisions, 3 motors. Before perfected. Clearly you don’t understand what it costs to make a product perfect. And by 9 years I’m not referring to you personally. But anyone in this group. Guys have been posting of this issue since 2013. Asking how to fix it. When all the tricks don’t work they ask why no one has a fix yet. Well here it is. I made it. I’m not going to keep replying to you. It’s a waste of my time to argue on page.

I have no shitty attitude. And if you want to have one that’s fine. Give me the finger that’s fine as well. But if you ever have a issue and actually need advice I’m still happy to help you. Shitty attitude or not. Hit me up anytime. 😉
 
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12 heads, 10 design revisions, 3 motors. Before perfected. Clearly you don’t understand what it costs to make a product perfect. And by 9 years I’m not referring to you personally. But anyone in this group. Guys have been posting of this issue since 2013. Asking how to fix it. When all the tricks don’t work they ask why no one has a fix yet. Well here it is. I made it. I’m not going to keep replying to you. It’s a waste of my time to argue on page.

I have no shitty attitude. And if you want to have one that’s fine. Give me the finger that’s fine as well. But if you ever have a issue and actually need advice I’m still happy to help you. Shitty attitude or not. Hit me up anytime. 😉
Well shit, I just might 😡
 
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This fix is probably a great product and i hope i will never need it, but this will most likely not get patented successfully.

If it will you will have to pay fees regularly to maintain the patent or it will eventually end.
Then. Where will your patent be valid? I guess US only as you won´t have lawyers worldwide and look for every single country in the EU nor China.

I think what you try here is to create some kind of picture that all the rights to replicate it are protected. They aren´t yet. Patent pending means actually not a lot but only that the process of patent lawyers is running and they are looking if this idea can be actually patented.
The cost for a patent is not tip money so i am wondering how this is added to your profit calculations. I don´t think you will sell 100s of these. Although i wish you the best.

But i guess the most important part is. If others will replicate it privately, you won´t know. There may be another company replicating this where you still will have an expensive law fight which probably won´t be worth it. But what if the company is outside the US?

IMHO this whole patent story is not worth a dime. If you get the product patented successfully, good for you. A patent is a nice thing to have.
 

Torgus

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This fix is probably a great product and i hope i will never need it, but this will most likely not get patented successfully.

If it will you will have to pay fees regularly to maintain the patent or it will eventually end.
Then. Where will your patent be valid? I guess US only as you won´t have lawyers worldwide and look for every single country in the EU nor China.

I think what you try here is to create some kind of picture that all the rights to replicate it are protected. They aren´t yet. Patent pending means actually not a lot but only that the process of patent lawyers is running and they are looking if this idea can be actually patented.
The cost for a patent is not tip money so i am wondering how this is added to your profit calculations. I don´t think you will sell 100s of these. Although i wish you the best.

But i guess the most important part is. If others will replicate it privately, you won´t know. There may be another company replicating this where you still will have an expensive law fight which probably won´t be worth it. But what if the company is outside the US?

IMHO this whole patent story is not worth a dime. If you get the product patented successfully, good for you. A patent is a nice thing to have.

I was going to post about this and mention hiring a patent attorney is at least 5k and can be much more. The whole a patent costs $280 to apply for is a crock of shit. Very few people can do it on their own successfully unless it is very simple.

Also, fighting against someone who copies your patent is expensive and very time consuming. At a minimum you need to hire a lawyer who is fully familiar with patent litigation. Not common as far as most attorneys & expensive. Then there is the long drawn out legal proceedings. If they are out of the USA or in China you might as well pound sand. It usually is not worth fighting. Just keep innovating and bringing new products to market is the best business strategy.

The company I work for, if someone sues us, if it costs less than 100-200k in legal fees we just pay out before going to court. Granted we draw the process out and try everything under the sun without hiring a lawyer or paying our lawyers as little as possible to write letters. It works in our favor 85% of the time I would say. Know why? Lawyers just SUCK money from you. It takes fucking forever and is a huge waste of time and money for everyone involved. 5B company. Fuck Lawyers, even our own.

Anyways, I am about as worried about your patent as I am a patent on DAW/VTT/Frankenturbo/Chinacast turbos you name it.

You have released a nice product, collect your sales. On a personal note PPI you come off very defensive/hostile and it is off putting.
 

N54gasm

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Dont need a kit as I dont have an issue, but thanks. Never said I was going to copy it, or make, or sell. However, the likely hood of you finding out about it, aint happening. But back to the point. You market a product that fixes an issue with this platform. However, in due time im sure china will copy it, and sell it for 1/4 the cost. But good luck sir
 

RuskiRacer

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I thought thats why we replace injector seals so we don't need to get to the point of a $500 injector bore repair kit. Do have a friend who claims to have missfires when running ethanol wondering if this would fix his issue.
 

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I thought thats why we replace injector seals so we don't need to get to the point of a $500 injector bore repair kit. Do have a friend who claims to have missfires when running ethanol wondering if this would fix his issue.
Maybe just tune related ?
On another note.....I don't think replacing seals is the issue. I have seen more people forget the decoupler OR the retaining tab is mounted backwards.
 

SLOWESTN54

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I thought thats why we replace injector seals so we don't need to get to the point of a $500 injector bore repair kit. Do have a friend who claims to have missfires when running ethanol wondering if this would fix his issue.
New decoupling rings ?
 

RuskiRacer

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Maybe just tune related ?
On another note.....I don't think replacing seals is the issue. I have seen more people forget the decoupler OR the retaining tab is mounted backwards.
Idk my friend is a full blown clown hes taken over Maintenance on his car. Back when I was maintaining it it used to run fine on a e30 mix mhd stage2 +. He replaced one motor and when I was doing the swap found he was missing an injector seal . Which was the reason for his missfires lol.. He installed some new index 12s, 95706 plugs and eldor coils so who knows if he forgot a decoupler or something silly
 

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But actually it is illegal. Even to make and use for your own personal use and never sell. That’s the whole point of a patent.

That is entirely the point of my response above.

Just making it. Using it, or (not and) selling it or offering to sell, or even make and give away for free to a friend. Is illegal. It’s protected under

35 U.S. Code § 271​

So why you may feel you have the right to take my idea that I worked hard to design and make and use it for your self or share for free with friends… you don’t.

I support diy. We gladly offer free advice and help everyday for no charge at all to anyone who messages us. Seriously message us on Facebook if you have a bmw issue you can’t figure out. We will guide you through a diy fix. Advice is always free with us.

But making a diy copy of a patented product is illegal. Doesn’t matter if you sell it or not.

We don’t pay our attorney for nothing. We made sure when we made the investment to test this that the patent was made correctly so that no one can use this and steal our idea and us not recoup our investment.

If you need a kit. I’m happy to help you. I’ll gladly sell you one. If you own a shop and have a business license and want to stock them we offer discounts on bulk orders and to resellers.


See here….


LOL Now we have to DIY this!
 

Dalby82

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Could the owner of PPI please get back to me. My garage in Ohio said they placed an order on the 19th of November and they still have not received the part to repair my head. They say they have messaged you twice about not receiving it yet but have not had a reply. I just want my car back. Thanks in advance.
 

Dalby82

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12 heads, 10 design revisions, 3 motors. Before perfected. Clearly you don’t understand what it costs to make a product perfect. And by 9 years I’m not referring to you personally. But anyone in this group. Guys have been posting of this issue since 2013. Asking how to fix it. When all the tricks don’t work they ask why no one has a fix yet. Well here it is. I made it. I’m not going to keep replying to you. It’s a waste of my time to argue on page.

I have no shitty attitude. And if you want to have one that’s fine. Give me the finger that’s fine as well. But if you ever have a issue and actually need advice I’m still happy to help you. Shitty attitude or not. Hit me up anytime. 😉
plug and play integration owner please reach out. I appreciate your time you dedicated to developing this product as it will save me a lot of money. On the other hand, the shop I have my vehicle at ordered your kit on the 19th of November, and still has not received yet. The shop name is Madison autosport in Toledo Ohio. They have tried to contact you twice with no reply. Hoping you can shed some light on why we have not received the kit. Thank you.
 

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plug and play integration owner please reach out. I appreciate your time you dedicated to developing this product as it will save me a lot of money. On the other hand, the shop I have my vehicle at ordered your kit on the 19th of November, and still has not received yet. The shop name is Madison autosport in Toledo Ohio. They have tried to contact you twice with no reply. Hoping you can shed some light on why we have not received the kit. Thank you.

Buddy. He hasn´t been online here for nearly a year. Try to Contact Michael Hollingsworth via Facebook. He is the douchebag behind the company.
 

Dalby82

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Buddy. He hasn´t been online here for nearly a year. Try to Contact Michael Hollingsworth via Facebook. He is the douchebag behind the company.
Thanks for this info. I figured it was a long shot. He doesn’t even have a phone number for his Buisness. I’ll try him on Facebook but I’m not holding my breath on this.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix an oblong injector port beside PPI kit, I’m definitely interested in hearing about it. Once again thanks for the reply.
 

Pot_Pie_35i

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Thanks for this info. I figured it was a long shot. He doesn’t even have a phone number for his Buisness. I’ll try him on Facebook but I’m not holding my breath on this.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix an oblong injector port beside PPI kit, I’m definitely interested in hearing about it. Once again thanks for the reply.
Did you ever get your kit??? Or hear back from the owner?
 

Szlrg

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Thanks for this info. I figured it was a long shot. He doesn’t even have a phone number for his Buisness. I’ll try him on Facebook but I’m not holding my breath on this.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix an oblong injector port beside PPI kit, I’m definitely interested in hearing about it. Once again thanks for the reply.
Did you ever get a reply from him or your kit? I ordered mine almost 2 months ago and he had stopped replying on Facebook.