MOTIV RE|FLEX - ADVANCED I/O INTEGRATION

V8bait

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Hopefully there is a single turbo suitable Re|Flex around the corner so I can ditch the AIC. Not that PI is needed just now, though more boost is coming now initial run-in is done.

It's already single ready of sort, IE it has the required outputs and inputs and will only get better once they finish the firmware. Right now if you use it, it's somewhere between a ghetto check valve MBC and something actually useful lol. It would work and get you over spring, but it's not ready for its real review quite yet. If you're going ST right now I'd probably still pick it up and just wait, hopefully iti'll be completed soon.
 
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DASN54

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I would have to think you don't need the module if you have Reflex but will wait for a definitive answer.
Yeah, I have the sensor, but really hoping I don't have to buy their $200 Flex Fuel box since I have the ReFlex... I bought the connector for the reflex to the E sensor assuming it would take place of the Flex Fuel Box.
 
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NoGuru

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Yeah, I have the sensor, but really hoping I don't have to buy their $200 Flex Fuel box since I have the ReFlex... I bought the connector for the reflex to the E sensor assuming it would take place of the Flex Fuel Box.
I think I have an extra one laying around. PM me before buying a new one if you need it. Hopefully you won't.
 
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Dumaurier7

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I would expect that an injector harness is part of the main harness but does anyone know what type connectors are supplied? I don't see a selection when placing an order.
 

DASN54

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I would expect that an injector harness is part of the main harness but does anyone know what type connectors are supplied? I don't see a selection when placing an order.
Yea it comes with the main harness which has the injector connectors.
 

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syn909

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Page 15 of the Reflex manual states none of the Canbus features work on the N54 platform as the DME does not support it. Which is the big selling point of this thing, so I guess that means no limp mode if it detects a problem with port injection.
 

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Would be great if Motiv could give some input here.

On the wiring table for N54 it says "in development"

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DASN54

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So for my application (N54) I just bought a mediocre port injection controller LOL!! Still haven't heard back from Motiv to confirm if I need their Flex Fuel box (I have the ethanol sensor), and Wedge advised me to use a boost controller so I picked one of those up. I guess I can always use the Reflex for CANBUS features on a B58 if I ever go that route. Possible part out coming! Over it. J/K or am I.....
 

syn909

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So for my application (N54) I just bought a mediocre port injection controller LOL!! Still haven't heard back from Motiv to confirm if I need their Flex Fuel box (I have the ethanol sensor), and Wedge advised me to use a boost controller so I picked one of those up. I guess I can always use the Reflex for CANBUS features on a B58 if I ever go that route. Possible part out coming! Over it. J/K or am I.....
The only way I ever got Jake to reply over at motiv was to use email now he didn't take up my offer to use an omni inbox / ticketing system and is probably getting way overloaded with questions since he's just using email.
 

Dumaurier7

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So for my application (N54) I just bought a mediocre port injection controller LOL!! Still haven't heard back from Motiv to confirm if I need their Flex Fuel box (I have the ethanol sensor), and Wedge advised me to use a boost controller so I picked one of those up. I guess I can always use the Reflex for CANBUS features on a B58 if I ever go that route. Possible part out coming! Over it. J/K or am I.....
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you wanna trade? :grimacing:
 
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lilg1993

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Update from Jake @ Motiv:
- N54 E Sensor Support Coming (4 weeks guesstimate)
- N54 MHD CAN Bus integration coming (waiting on MHD devlopment as they are doing the R&D)

I was just going to write that he messaged me back saying that a newer version was coming that will eliminate the need for the flex fuel box if running the ReFlex. He specified however that it is a hardware change, so then older versions of the ReFlex will still need a flex fuel box. 4-ish weeks until the new ReFlex, and new price will be $749. Will also include "a few more big updates as well" according to Jake.

And yes, confirmed waiting on MHD for the CAN Bus integration.
 

DASN54

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I was just going to write that he messaged me back saying that a newer version was coming that will eliminate the need for the flex fuel box if running the ReFlex. He specified however that it is a hardware change, so then older versions of the ReFlex will still need a flex fuel box. 4-ish weeks until the new ReFlex, and new price will be $749. Will also include "a few more big updates as well" according to Jake.

And yes, confirmed waiting on MHD for the CAN Bus integration.
I tried to return mine, denied! Oh well, car is for sale now anyway lol.