Before choose tuner, read me or get cheated. DocVu etuning process and result sharing

SLOWESTN54

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OK new user, I'll take your word for it that all these random new accounts are completely unrelated to Doc ;)

He sounds like a true Robin Hood character with all the charitable acts. He even has a band of merry men that vehemently defend his honour on forums.


Seriously though, at this point I don't care if you're a good tuner or not, this new account spamming is just obnoxious. Also I looked up that Misty Burgess person using their email and it turns out they aren't disabled or a mother. Also they are listed as single.
Sounds like it's a stolen paypal account being used as a proxy. Either that or the whole sob story is just made up and they are letting their paypal be used intentionally as a proxy.
i still wonder why he doesn't call him self "DentistVU" or "ScammerVU" even better "WhataretaxesVU"
 

Mattdrake27

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OK new user, I'll take your word for it that all these random new accounts are completely unrelated to Doc ;)

He sounds like a true Robin Hood character with all the charitable acts. He even has a band of merry men that vehemently defend his honour on forums.


Seriously though, at this point I don't care if you're a good tuner or not, this new account spamming is just obnoxious. Also I looked up that Misty Burgess person using their email and it turns out they aren't disabled or a mother. Also they are listed as single.
Sounds like it's a stolen paypal account being used as a proxy. Either that or the whole sob story is just made up and they are letting their paypal be used intentionally as a proxy.
Interesting conclusion to someone who has never met these people. I guess I was imagining the scars I’ve seen from her surgeries and having dinners with her and her children in her home. The amount of effort to come up with stories to paint a horrible picture of good people is sickening. Plain an simple there’s no scams going on here. There’s also not one shred of factual information that indicates any tax wrongdoing. You guys are assuming things.
 

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Interesting conclusion to someone who has never met these people. I guess I was imagining the scars I’ve seen from her surgeries and having dinners with her and her children in her home. The amount of effort to come up with stories to paint a horrible picture of good people is sickening. Plain an simple there’s no scams going on here. There’s also not one shred of factual information that indicates any tax wrongdoing. You guys are assuming things.
So when he does his taxes, does he present Mistys paypal acct and pay taxes on the income accepted by her as friends and family that was sent to her for tuning services rendered ?
If so, how if they are not married and not filing jointly ?
The acct. is under HER name NOT his.
Wait, maybe Misty pays taxes on money she receives into her paypal...no, that doesnt make sense, why would she , if she provided NO services and its just gifts from friends and family around the world.
I am no tax expert, but you must be since you insist there is no wrong doing.
My apologies.
 
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GreyNBlueE92

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So now he's talking to himself between multiple accounts... 😂 Maybe if you change the color from blue to something else they will leave...
 

carabuser

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Obviously not many patients in at the moment.

Here's where he operates his tuning business from: https://goo.gl/maps/Z59eQ9bP2HDSfEBU6

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carabuser

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Quite a convoluted setup here. So Phuong does the tuning, Matthew Drake does the customer interaction and the payment all goes into Misty Brown's paypal who is Phuong's girlfriend?

I don't want to make it seem like it's a witch hunt here but you could make life a lot easier for yourself by being upfront about all this. 1 bad review from a customer isn't an issue, everyone makes mistakes and everyone comes across awkward clients but you made yourself look really stupid here with all the aliases. Just make yourself a proper SpoolStreet account and defend yourself properly as a business. Maybe even pick up some customers if you come out looking professional.

The tax avoidance isn't such an issue. I'm willing to bet that the majority of people accepting money for tunes aren't declaring the income. We get taxed to shit in the UK, anyone earning well is paying over 50% tax so you need to use any tricks you can to keep the tax bill down.
 
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Mattdrake27

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Quite a convoluted setup here. So Phuong does the tuning, Matthew Drake does the customer interaction and the payment all goes into Misty Brown's paypal who is Phuong's girlfriend?

I don't want to make it seem like it's a witch hunt here but you could make life a lot easier for yourself by being upfront about all this. 1 bad review from a customer isn't an issue, everyone makes mistakes and everyone comes across awkward clients but you made yourself look really stupid here with all the aliases. Just make yourself a proper SpoolStreet account and defend yourself properly as a business. Maybe even pick up some customers if you come out looking professional.

The tax avoidance isn't such an issue. I'm willing to bet that the majority of people accepting money for tunes aren't declaring the income. We get taxed to shit in the UK, anyone earning well is paying over 50% tax so you need to use any tricks you can to keep the tax bill down.
I have one Spool street account. Phuong has one Spool street account. The people commenting in here are who they say they are. I don't know who has time to make different profiles and accounts and then have conversations with themselves. I mean I've seen that kind of shit on TV before but not in real life lol.

That dental office is where Phuong does his dental work. Maybe he does tuning there on his down time as well who knows. Tuning can be done anywhere that has wifi and a that a laptop can fit. I don't see the relevance there. But it does prove that he works in a low income area like I said before.

I have actually never seen a payment go to Misty's PayPal before this case so that is not the norm. Any customers that I direct payments from go right to his personal PayPal account.

Like you said. One bad review isn't a big deal. We know we did nothing wrong and have nothing to prove. The satisfied customers are plenty enough to hold our reputation. The only reason I have even commented at all on this thread is because you guys are making assumptions and attacking the character of two amazing people that simply don't deserve it.
 
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RuskiRacer

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Quite a convoluted setup here. So Phuong does the tuning, Matthew Drake does the customer interaction and the payment all goes into Misty Brown's paypal who is Phuong's girlfriend?

I don't want to make it seem like it's a witch hunt here but you could make life a lot easier for yourself by being upfront about all this. 1 bad review from a customer isn't an issue, everyone makes mistakes and everyone comes across awkward clients but you made yourself look really stupid here with all the aliases. Just make yourself a proper SpoolStreet account and defend yourself properly as a business. Maybe even pick up some customers if you come out looking professional.

The tax avoidance isn't such an issue. I'm willing to bet that the majority of people accepting money for tunes aren't declaring the income. We get taxed to shit in the UK, anyone earning well is paying over 50% tax so you need to use any tricks you can to keep the tax bill down.
With all the tuners I've worked with they all ask me to send it to them friends and family I don't thats very unusual at all.
 

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It's always just to avoid PayPal fee's
It's far worse.

Paypal is now reporting 1099 for transactions that are not F&F, in some states to where total annual transactions exceed $600. Far worse - they report 100% of the total as income to the IRS. So say you had $2,200 in total annual transactions. $2,200 gets reported. Say there was a $120 transaction in there, and $8 in Paypal fees. Paypal reports the full $120 on the 1099 as income. Paypal doesn't even remove the fees from the reporting. Gets better. Say your refund the $120 transaction. Paypal does not account for that in the reporting. They report gross deposits that are not F&F. Zero adjustments for anything.

Now ... if you bought a set of wheels for $1,800 and, two years later sell them for $600. Paypal reports $600 of course (and again, the $23 you paid in fees to paypal are left in there are income). So you have to build up a table which says you bought the wheels for $1,800, sold for $600, $23 in paypal fees, and hence -$600 on the 1099 reporting. Do various versions of all that accounting for every entry. That you have to submit to the IRS. I gave a simple example with goods sales. Services have their own version of expenses.

This is not about running a business, folks, though that can be one aspect. Be aware. The IRS would gladly stand next to your yard sale table and take a percentage of every sale of used item you sold, and have you defend the basis. Best part ... when you have $1,800 wheels you sell for 600, you don't get to claim the remaining $1,200 as expense or loss. That's only for businesses. For individuals the IRS is your Paypal Fair Weather Friend.
 

SLOWESTN54

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It's far worse.

Paypal is now reporting 1099 for transactions that are not F&F, in some states to where total annual transactions exceed $600. Far worse - they report 100% of the total as income to the IRS. So say you had $2,200 in total annual transactions. $2,200 gets reported. Say there was a $120 transaction in there, and $8 in Paypal fees. Paypal reports the full $120 on the 1099 as income. Paypal doesn't even remove the fees from the reporting. Gets better. Say your refund the $120 transaction. Paypal does not account for that in the reporting. They report gross deposits that are not F&F. Zero adjustments for anything.

Now ... if you bought a set of wheels for $1,800 and, two years later sell them for $600. Paypal reports $600 of course (and again, the $23 you paid in fees to paypal are left in there are income). So you have to build up a table which says you bought the wheels for $1,800, sold for $600, $23 in paypal fees, and hence -$600 on the 1099 reporting. Do various versions of all that accounting for every entry. That you have to submit to the IRS. I gave a simple example with goods sales. Services have their own version of expenses.

This is not about running a business, folks, though that can be one aspect. Be aware. The IRS would gladly stand next to your yard sale table and take a percentage of every sale of used item you sold, and have you defend the basis. Best part ... when you have $1,800 wheels you sell for 600, you don't get to claim the remaining $1,200 as expense or loss. That's only for businesses. For individuals the IRS is your Paypal Fair Weather Friend.
DAM. Thank you for shining some light on how it all works. After looking into this some more it's the exact same way in Canada. It was always my belief that its just to avoid paypal fee's.
 

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Doc vu seems to have gotten the hang of the whole tuning thing. RFP ftw.


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Midnight_E92

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Sounds like you dont have”enough” in your fuel system to achieve your power goals. Tuner does not have anything to do with this. You live in Korea shits going to take a while to get there. Get over it. Get your fuel system right to run a better fuel or use a port meth kit with proper tuning to get to your desired power goals. Dont sit here and blame the tuner when you gave him nothing to work with. Doc vu tuned my car and have had no issues. Im making over 800hp and not a hiccup. Get your shit straight.
 

mcleansc

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Everyone saying the fuel is rubbish, isn't 93 octane the same as 98/99 RON we get in the UK? My stock turbo car with a similar set up (FBO, inlets/outlets, no meth and OEM fuel pump) made 430whp on 99 RON. Surely bigger turbos, a Walbro 450 and meth should make more than 20whp on the same fuel?
 

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Everyone saying the fuel is rubbish, isn't 93 octane the same as 98/99 RON we get in the UK? My stock turbo car with a similar set up (FBO, inlets/outlets, no meth and OEM fuel pump) made 430whp on 99 RON. Surely bigger turbos, a Walbro 450 and meth should make more than 20whp on the same fuel?
We are not saying the fuel IS rubbish ... we are questioning the fuel. Makes a big difference. Not all fuel is the same quality for the same octane rating. You can run the biggest turbos on the planet, put water in your tank and try to make 20hp more. Take it back down to fuel ... fuel quality is going to play a significant part in timing corrections, etc.
 
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Slowagon54

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Ok, looks like everything said. What have we learned now?

PS: Did you contacted V8bait?
PPS: Be careful, he s a Doc as well :D
 

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Even though OP is frustrated with the ProMeth situation, I think he handled the situation very poorly. Firstly, even though Doc recommended ProMeth, it's inappropriate of OP to ask Doc to handle issues with the order. As for the price quote - Doc made an honest mistake. He's only human, and makes mistakes like everyone else. If OP can't handle this, it would be best for him to take his immaturity to a different platform. Doc has been nothing but great to me and by far has the best customer services after dealing with several other tuners. He's always been a stand up guy and it's unfortunate that he is getting put on blast by OP.
 
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