User Review - Wedge Performance vs. Twisted Tuning

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matreyia

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Was on wedge till motor blew. Going with Motiv once i get a motor and Pure stage 2 DD.

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Twisted is doing very well with maps. The latest one has very good throttle response now and consistent smooth engine power.
 

matreyia

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I have posted, several times, the results. With charts.

I don't care about your gains with inlet/outlet upgrades - that's not the issue for me, the issue for me is your arrogant shit attitude coming to posts and acting like you know everything. You know jack shit about my car.

Why don't you actually ask questions to get to bottom of why or why not things work or don't work?
I don't know...maybe a shit load of overlooked things causing my results...
1. Do i have upgraded turbos? - No.
2. Do I run e85? - No.
3. Are there any other things that might affect my particular situation? - I have no idea.

I am betting that this batshit rude attitude is how you reply to most posts that contain results that contradict your experience and that you get reminded often that there may be differences in setups that cause these contradictions.
 
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It isn't personal experience, it's fact. As in, I dynoed without outlets, then installed them, then dynoed. That's called independent 3rd party objective testing.
 

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It isn't personal experience, it's fact. As in, I dynoed without outlets, then installed them, then dynoed. That's called independent 3rd party objective testing.

YES - IT IS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND FACT - for your setup.
Personal experience and Fact are not mutually exclusive.

Did you run e85?
Did you have upgraded turbos?
Did you have any other mods that contributed to the gains such as fuel supply mods?
 

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Can someone tell me what was the point of this train wreck, I meant, thread?
 

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E85 is not relevant, as these changes changed airflow and nothing else.

Stock turbos.

Fuel supply mods are irrelevant, as these changes changed airflow and nothing else.

All of these questions were answered in the thread(s) FWIW.
 

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It isn't personal experience, it's fact. As in, I dynoed without outlets, then installed them, then dynoed. That's called independent 3rd party objective testing.


I would bet you money that if I take your car and took off the inlets/outlets and dyno'ed then re-installed them and dyno'ed the car, I would see gains as you stated. BECAUSE IT'S YOUR FUCKING CAR.

And I bet that if I did the same thing on my car with its particular setup, there would be little to no gains and retardation of performance. Because it's my car with its particular setup.
 

matreyia

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Can someone tell me what was the point of this train wreck, I meant, thread?

There is no point. Just an asshat coming to argue with my report on my car...which is completely different from his car.
 

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So my results cannot be duplicated even when the build is duplicated? Interesting theory.

Remember boys and girls, swapping to GC turbos and gaining power only works on Tony's cars, nobody else sees power increases.
 

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Actually our cars and our builds are quite similar, as in, nearly identical. Keep trying.
 

matreyia

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E85 is not relevant, as these changes changed airflow and nothing else.

Stock turbos.

Fuel supply mods are irrelevant, as these changes changed airflow and nothing else.

All of these questions were answered in the thread(s) FWIW.


And finally, as I stated, maybe I will see gains when Justin at Twisted Tuning is done with the tune. So far, it looks good. Wedge tuning did absolutely nothing as far as I could tell...except for choke up the car each time I floored the pedal. Like he don't know how to adjust for the more breathing capacity.
 

matreyia

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So my results cannot be duplicated even when the build is duplicated? Interesting theory.

Remember boys and girls, swapping to GC turbos and gaining power only works on Tony's cars, nobody else sees power increases.

There goes that habitual shit juvenile know it all attitude again.

I have no idea what the hell you did to your iS vs. my 335i.

And what the fuck do upgraded turbos have to do with this post? Why you misdirecting here? Are you saying that I think no gains are made from turbo upgrades? Even worse, are you saying that turbo upgrades are to be seen as on par with inlet/outlet upgrades in terms of power gains?

You are out of your damn mind kid.
 

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The gains you see with inlets and/or outlets will still be represented without any tuning changes at all, just maybe not quite to the full extent.

The tuning changes between the posted dyno runs for the outlets were negligible. We did one logged 3rd gear run, made a couple quick changes, and dynoed.

The problem here is you're not backing up any of these assertions with data or fact. You simply installed the parts, and tried to "feel" if they made a difference. That doesn't cut it, and thus you cannot even begin to hypothesize that said parts did not make a difference.
 
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matreyia

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"So my results cannot be duplicated even when the build is duplicated?"

No, they cannot be duplicated even when the build is duplicated IF your tuner does not tune it to account for the inlets you idiot. Obviously if they are duplicate setups and the same tuner gets his hands on them, then both cars would have the same gains.

Do you even know how stupid you sound? Please back the fuck up and re-assess your arrogant ignorant attitude. Whoever did your tune apparently knows how to use the improved flow.
 

matreyia

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The gains you see with inlets and/or outlets will still be represented without any tuning changes at all, just maybe not quite to the full extent.

The tuning changes between the posted dyno runs for the outlets were negligible. We did one logged 3rd gear run, made a couple quick changes, and dynoed.

The problem here is you're not backing up any of these assertions with data or fact. You simply installed the parts, and tried to "feel" if they made a difference. That doesn't cut it, and thus you cannot even begin to hypothesize that said parts did not make a difference.

"FEEL"? No son. On Wedge tuning, I could not even drive the damn car without choking and sputtering and fuel economy going to shit. I don't need no damn dyno to tell me that.
 

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Don't need no dyno. Send it.
 

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The gains you see with inlets and/or outlets will still be represented without any tuning changes at all, just maybe not quite to the full extent.

Let's try repeating this, word for word, to see if you're capable of reading comprehension.

"The gains you see with inlets and/or outlets will still be represented without any tuning changes at all, just maybe not quite to the full extent."

That's what a flow sensor is for. Aka MAP sensor.
 
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