Running MSD81 as a Standalone

[barry@3DM]

Hello fellow Spoolstreeters... looking to lean on a bit of your knowledge for help with a project. Many thanks again to those who have helped with the cooling/waterpump work in the past.

I'm in the middle of building an E92 335i racecar (build thread coming soon) and looking to keep the MSD81. Since it is a racecar, i'm looking to see what it takes to run the MSD81 as a standalone. To be clear, I know that the Motec, or Bosch Motorsport ECU are better solutions, that is not a path that I want to go down at this stage.

The car no longer has any of the factory wiring. So I need to figure out what the MSD81 needs in order to run the motor. Ultimate goal is to simplify and ditch the CAS, key, etc.

I'm open to any type of discussion with this. Additionally, if anyone knows the details or can point me to someone who has done it before it would be much appreciated!

Thank you,
Barry

 

[Omar@VaderSolutions]

@Levanime is the main man to answer any ecu related question

 

[fmorelli]

I'm surprised, given the group here, that this thread is largely untouched. No input or experience to share here, guys?

I've done some searches on the subject and it seems a bit thin - mostly youtube idiots that think an N54 swap is about fitting engine and other stuff people did 20 years ago.

Thoughts? Pointers?

Filippo

 

[NoQuarter]

I'd like to understand how to run one of these on the bench. What minimum inputs/etc are required for it to behave somewhat normally.

 

[fmorelli]

@Seb335i ... someone with a bit of module and module coding expertise ...

Filippo

 

[Seb335i]

I would start to change VO/FA to delete all the code related to what you have unpluged

 

[aus335iguy]

Having a bare VO will only get you so far I think. Even bare bones e9x VO will still mean you need a CAS for key authentication at a minimum. You could replace the KOMBI with a Can dash logger to display cooling, oil and other idiot lights. You’d need to be able to feed it things like wheel speed and so a DSC possibly...
I dont have an answer for you because Unfortunately it’s fairly complex and intertwined and never been done before as far as I know. Jake Yamona would know as he can see the DME program logic and where it interacts with other modules. You’d likely have to customise it so it doesn’t use all that.

 

[Hydra Performance]

Barry,
Awron have a standalone MSD81 setup made for swaps/retrofits, but last I saw it wasn't cheap. I can talk to my rep there if you're interested?

 

[EOSpeed]

Contact Jim at Kassel Performance he already has a MSD81 standalone all done.

 

[Traf]

As Hydra said, Awron did it long ago.

 

[M18.racing]

Hello fellow Spoolstreeters... looking to lean on a bit of your knowledge for help with a project. Many thanks again to those who have helped with the cooling/waterpump work in the past.

I'm in the middle of building an E92 335i racecar (build thread coming soon) and looking to keep the MSD81. Since it is a racecar, i'm looking to see what it takes to run the MSD81 as a standalone. To be clear, I know that the Motec, or Bosch Motorsport ECU are better solutions, that is not a path that I want to go down at this stage.

The car no longer has any of the factory wiring. So I need to figure out what the MSD81 needs in order to run the motor. Ultimate goal is to simplify and ditch the CAS, key, etc.

I'm open to any type of discussion with this. Additionally, if anyone knows the details or can point me to someone who has done it before it would be much appreciated!

Thank you,
Barry

Been there keep junction box and cas you will be happy later . Awron require to take your car to them .

there is a way to run without cas and junction box ( pm for info)

We kept cas,junction box(gutted), light control modu , transfer case ecu, abs/tcs . Very small amount of wiring left . Deleted evry single wire that it was not in use.

sorry dont have more pictures

 

[Illsic_Design]

Maybe PM this guy over on e90post? He swapped the N54 into an E36 and kept the DME but got rid of CAS and other stuff.

E92 N54 Engine Swap Build into E36!

E92 N54 Engine Swap Build into E36!

www.e90post.com